{"id":1414,"date":"2010-05-04T21:51:44","date_gmt":"2010-05-05T05:51:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/?p=1414"},"modified":"2010-05-05T06:34:59","modified_gmt":"2010-05-05T14:34:59","slug":"mark-vs-mann","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/04\/mark-vs-mann-1414\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark vs. Mann"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sally Mann is a tremendously talented photographer whose work never fails to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/2008\/10\/14\/sally-mann-21\/\" target=\"_blank\">creep me out<\/a>. I came across her &#8220;At Twelve: Portraits of Young Women&#8221; (1988) in the stacks at the Berkeley Public Library last week, and almost immediately also found &#8220;Streetwise&#8221; by Mary Ellen Mark.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0088196\/\" target=\"_blank\">Streetwise<\/a>&#8221; (1984)\u00a0is Martin Bell&#8217;s\u00a0Oscar-nominated documentary about runaway kids living on the streets in Seattle, some of them turning to prostitution to survive. The inspiration for the movie was the <em>Time <\/em>magazine article &#8220;Streets of the Lost&#8221; by Cheryl McCall, with photos by\u00a0Mary Ellen Mark. Mark (who is married to Bell) took photos during the filming of &#8220;Streetwise,&#8221; and released them as a book by the same name in 1988. I had seen the film when it came out, and came across her photos years later (at the Getty, I think).\u00a0Both were extremely powerful, capturing the dignity of these kids in the face of exploitation and desperation.<\/p>\n<p>When I saw the work by Mann and Mark side-by-side I was struck by the similarity of the subject matter,\u00a0but how differently\u00a0each photographer chose to portray them. In each set of photos I have selected from these two books, the image on the left is by Mark, and the one on the right is by Mann. I&#8217;ll say no more, and let the photos speak for themselves.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1416\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/04\/mark-vs-mann-1414\/mark_mann1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann1.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"947,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;MX700 series&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1273006256&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Mark_Mann1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann1-300x158.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann1.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1416\" title=\"Mark_Mann1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"738\" height=\"390\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann1.jpg 947w, https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann1-300x158.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1422\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/04\/mark-vs-mann-1414\/mark_mann2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann2.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1171,499\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;MX700 series&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1273006157&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Mark_Mann2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann2-299x127.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann2-1024x436.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1422\" title=\"Mark_Mann2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"738\" height=\"314\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann2.jpg 1171w, https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann2-299x127.jpg 299w, https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann2-1024x436.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1420\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/04\/mark-vs-mann-1414\/mark_mann3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann3.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1152,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;MX700 series&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1273006227&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Mark_Mann3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann3-300x130.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann3-1024x444.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1420\" title=\"Mark_Mann3\" src=\"http:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"738\" height=\"320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann3.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann3-300x130.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/05\/Mark_Mann3-1024x444.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Michael Singman-Aste<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.PostdiluvianPhoto.com\">Postdiluvian Photo<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sally Mann is a tremendously talented photographer whose work never fails to creep me out. I came across her &#8220;At Twelve: Portraits of Young Women&#8221; (1988) in the stacks at the Berkeley Public Library last week, and almost immediately also found &#8220;Streetwise&#8221; by Mary Ellen Mark. &#8220;Streetwise&#8221; (1984)\u00a0is Martin Bell&#8217;s\u00a0Oscar-nominated documentary about runaway kids living [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[23,3,4],"tags":[147,146,66,78],"class_list":["post-1414","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-artists","category-rants","category-raves","tag-martin-bell","tag-mary-ellen-mark","tag-movies","tag-sally-mann"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pPxQO-mO","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1414","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1414"}],"version-history":[{"count":30,"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1414\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1447,"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1414\/revisions\/1447"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1414"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1414"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.postdiluvianphoto.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1414"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}